Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes

abraham · Site Admin Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 53

Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes

This is an article forwarded to me. Rick Mathes is a well known leader in Prison ministry.

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the B B, Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.

The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.

After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked, "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic, Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized.

. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry!

Guest · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: The truth about this article...

Read more about this - it's not accurate nor is it even deserving of a post. It spreads ignorance and intolerance, not the truth and God's love for us all. (btw - I am a Christian).

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp, http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_allah_or_jesus.htm, http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/16236.htm

Sinner · Guest

Re: "Allah or Jesus by Rick Mathes"

Hmmm... It's easy for wolves to craft fake interviews or at least put serious spin on events as a way to get points across that are otherwise unsubstantiated. But it doesn't make them true.

I could easily make similar unsubstantiated claims about all Christians in general, and there will be a grain of truth in them (since they do apply to a fringe of Christians):

1) Christians believe in killing anyone at a family planning clinic
2) Christians believe in supporting the interests of the rich and powerful, and looking the other way as those in power ignore the poor and powerless, because Christians believe that being rich and powerful is a sign of God's favor, and being poor and powerless is a sign of sin
3) Christians believe in aggressively taking power from any regimes that do not share Christian values, world view, or preferred political system (something they share with certain Muslims!)

See http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp for the results of an investigation into the claims of Rick Mathes.

Peace and understanding is the path to truth, not aggression and falsehood. That is the truth that too many conservative Christians and other (fake Christian) neo-conservatives don't understand, or ignore (since the end justifies the means?).

People, raise your kids to be open to dialog, question prejudice, and keep an eye out for the "wolves in sheep's clothing".